Justices' abortion remarks: Is it time to overturn Roe?

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This artist sketch depicts Center for Reproductive Rights Litigation Director Julie Rikelman speaking to the Supreme Court, Wednesday, Dec. 1, 2021, in Washington. Seated to Rikelman's right is Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar. Justices seated from left are Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Associate Justice Elena Kagan, Associate Justice Samuel Alito, Associate Justice Clarence Thomas, Chief Justice John Roberts, Associate Justice Stephen Breyer, Associate Justice Sonia Sotomayor, Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch and Associate Justice Amy Coney Barrett. (Dana Verkouteren via AP)

WASHINGTON ā€“ The Supreme Court heard arguments in which it was asked to overturn a nationwide right to abortion that has existed for nearly 50 years.

The fate of the courtā€™s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion throughout the United States and its 1992 ruling in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, which reaffirmed Roe, probably wonā€™t be known until late June.

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But during nearly two hours of arguments on Wednesday, conservative justices indicated they had questions about the court's current abortion framework. The justices were being asked to overrule the two seminal decisions in the context of a Mississippi law that bans abortion after 15 weeks. The court's Roe and Casey precedents say a state can regulate but not ban abortion before the point of viability, at about 24 weeks. All six conservative justices, including three appointed by former President Donald Trump, indicated they would uphold Mississippiā€™s law.

In their writings and statements before Wednesday, Justice Clarence Thomas had been the only justice to call openly for overruling Roe and Casey.

Here are some of the things the justices said during arguments:

CONSERVATIVES:

Chief Justice John Roberts called a 15-week ban ā€œnot a dramatic departure from viability.ā€ He said: ā€œIf you think ... that women should have a choice to terminate their pregnancy, that supposes that there is a point at which theyā€™ve had the fair choice, opportunity to choice, and why would 15 weeks be an inappropriate line? Because viability, it seems to me, doesnā€™t have anything to do with choice. But, if it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time?ā€

Justice Clarence Thomas suggested the right to abortion appears nowhere in the Constitution: ā€œIf we were talking about the Second Amendment, I know exactly what weā€™re talking about. If weā€™re talking about the Fourth Amendment, I know what weā€™re talking about because itā€™s written. Itā€™s there. What specifically is the right here that weā€™re talking about?ā€

Justice Samuel Alito said people on both sides of the abortion issue have said the court's viability line ā€œreally doesn't make a lot of sense.ā€ He suggested a woman still ā€œhas the same interest in terminating her pregnancy after the viability line has been crossed.ā€ He added: ā€œThe fetus has an interest in having a life, and that doesnā€™t change, does it, from the point before viability to the point after viability?ā€

Justice Neil Gorsuch asked what the court should do if it were to ā€œreject the viability line.ā€ "Do you see any other intelligible principle that the court could choose?" he asked the Biden administration's top Supreme Court lawyer, who was arguing that Mississippi's ban should be struck down.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh suggested overruling precedent has been an important part of the court's history: ā€œIf you think about some of the most important cases, the most consequential cases in this courtā€™s history, thereā€™s a string of them where the cases overruled precedent." Kavanaugh cited cases that extended rights beyond where they were previously, including those that outlawed segregation and said gay couples have a right to marry. ā€œIf we think that the prior precedents are seriously wrong, if that, why then doesnā€™t the history of this courtā€™s practice with respect to those cases tell us that the right answer is actually a return to the position of neutrality and ā€” and not stick with those precedents in the same way that all those other cases didnā€™t?ā€

Justice Amy Coney Barrett suggested that so-called safe haven laws in all 50 states that allow mothers to relinquish parental rights mean women canā€™t be forced into motherhood. She asked about states ā€œrequiring the woman to go 15, 16 weeks more" past the point of viability ā€œand then terminate parental rights at the conclusion.ā€ ā€Why didnā€™t you address the safe haven laws and why donā€™t they matter?" she asked a lawyer arguing against Mississippi's ban.

LIBERALS:

Justice Stephen Breyer said that where the court is overturning a watershed case like Roe it ā€œbetter be damn sureā€ before doing so. He quoted the Casey case about the dangers of overruling precedent, saying: ā€œTo overrule under fire in the absence of the most compelling reason, to reexamine a watershed decision, would subvert the courtā€™s legitimacy beyond any serious question."

Justice Sonia Sotomayor said reversing Roe and Casey would damage the court. She asked: ā€œWill this institution survive the stench that this creates in the public perception that the Constitution and its reading are just political acts?ā€

Justice Elena Kagan said of the current case: ā€œI guess what strikes me when I look at this case is that, you know, not much has changed since Roe and Casey, that people think itā€™s right or wrong based on the things that they have always thought it was right and wrong for.ā€ Since Roe, however, there's been ā€œ50 years of water under the bridge, 50 years of decisions saying that this is part of our law, that this is part of the fabric of womenā€™s existence in this country.ā€


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